Barbara Hartwell

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Independent Investigator, Intelligence Analyst, Journalist. Former CIA (NOC, Psychological Operations) Black Ops Survivor. Sovereign Child of God. Minister of the Gospel of Jesus Christ (Ordained 1979, D.Div.) Exposing Government Lies, Crimes, Corruption, Conspiracies and Cover-ups.

Wednesday, April 25, 2018

Ted Gunderson, John DeCamp & Alex Jones: Counterintelligence Propaganda Exposed

On April 20 the podcast of my interview (PART 2) with Ramola D of the EveryDay Concerned Citizen was published on You Tube.

The subject for discussion was COINTELPRO, specifically the operations run by the FBI, in particular focusing on FBI chief and COINTELPRO Kingpin, Ted Gunderson, J. Edgar Hoover's protege' and right hand man.

Following the video were a number of comments by listeners, two of which I will address as an example of the pervasive COINTELPRO propaganda which is parroted ad infinitum, ad nauseam, by the masses of asses who have bought into it and swallowed it, hook, line and sinker.

I should state up front (and as my regular readers will know) that I do not run an “interactive” website. I do not solicit comments from the readers. I do not engage the readers in discussions, arguments or debates, nor answer questions, on this site or any other.

All reports published on this site are “for information purposes only”, a fact stated repeatedly in the NOTICES section at the top of the site. The readers may make of my material what they will. Caveat lector. The same applies to my radio interviews.

I do not have a public e-mail address. Anyone who is interested in contacting me may easily do so via my postal address, also given at the top of the site.

I realize that this policy is not the norm for most people who run websites, nor is it typical of the culture of the Internet, which has become a sort of gargantuan free-for-all, via social media, discussion groups and venues of constant and instant contact among individuals and groups.

I do not participate in any of that; I find it highly invasive, even offensive; nor would such engagement serve my professional purposes. It does not concern me, “what people think” of me or my work; whether they agree or disagree with the information I publish; whether or not they share my opinions, viewpoints or political ideology.

However, when someone publicly defames my name, in any venue, such that false information is promoted; such that my privacy is invaded; when there is harassment; or there is injurious exploitation of my name, I may decide to expose the individual(s), in my own defense, to refute the libelous/slanderous falsehoods, and to set the record straight.

In fact, many of the reports on this website are written precisely for that purpose, to expose criminals, liars and frauds, many of whom have engaged in character assassination, defamation and/or crimes against persons (including Barbara Hartwell and/or my friends, family, colleagues).

I fully understand that when my work is published in other venues (print or electronic/radio/video) that comments from listeners/readers will be made, unsolicited by me. Usually, I ignore these comments (favorable or otherwise). And sometimes, when it serves a purpose, I address them, especially when they are defamatory, or particularly stupid.

Then, there is the fact that most people commenting in various venues (including You Tube) hide behind aliases or screen names. I automatically give zero credibility to such persons. If they are not willing to give their real names, they are mere anonymous cowards, defaming persons who DO use their real names.

Here, a comment from one such person, whom I would describe as (among many others of this ilk) a belligerent ignoramus. A person who does not know what she is talking about; who states no facts; who provides no evidence, except, perhaps, of her own malice and stupidity.


"The quest IS the dis-info Agent. Your guest states she heard from an "unimpeachable source" that John de Camp was himself a pedophile. Do know how much John de Camp did historically for child trafficking!? How disrespectful. First your guest defames, Ted Gunderson, a hero again in exposing child trafficking. De Camp and Gunderson are both dead so they can't respond to the Interview. Then the quest takes down Alex Jones : I've personally listen to Alex Jones , for hours, for 8 years. He's honest. Judge him, then, by the quests on his Show. Craig Sawyer, Vets for Child Rescue, is frequently on. When Craig Sawyer couldn't get nothing going Alex Jones gave him 100 Grand. Gerald Celente, another quest. Joel Skousen, Matt Bracken, Navy Seal on & on When Trump bombed Syria, Alex Jones did come out " yelling and hollering" and uncensored 4 letter words at the President. Alex Jones is honest. Alex Jones cares , firstly about Family. I wish Ramola more people would come out "yelling and hollering" and I'll tell you millions of educated listeners are relieved he does. I repeat: Your guest is the disinfo agent. Period."

The anonymous coward calling herself (or possibly himself, who can say?) “Rita” begins by calling the “quest” a “disinfo agent”. It appears she means to say “guest”, namely Barbara Hartwell.

"Do know how much John de Camp did historically for child trafficking!? How disrespectful."

Speaking strictly for myself, as always, I know a great deal about the history of John DeCamp, none of it good. Which comes from more than two decades of dealings with DeCamp and Gunderson, as well as exhaustive investigations.

I know that DeCamp and Gunderson disseminated a plethora of material about child trafficking, most of which has been blindly accepted and endorsed by many people who have NOT done their own research, much less investigations. They also maintained a network of cronies in the intelligence community and media, as well as government stooges and lackeys whom they exploited to do their dirty work.

Gunderson and DeCamp are widely held up as heroes and patriot icons, but the actual nature of their criminal activities have rarely been exposed.

My expositions of these individuals have mostly  fallen on deaf ears, by those who are hell-bent on defending them, no matter how large the body of evidence, nor the facts which could be verified, should they choose to make an effort to remedy their willful ignorance.

Many others have chosen to attack the messenger, spreading outrageous and defamatory falsehoods, usually parroting the very slurs against Barbara Hartwell fabricated by Gunderson and DeCamp.

And speaking of being “disrespectful”, I have no reason to respect either one of them. Respect (aside from general respect for a person's rights, privacy and personal boundaries) must be earned, not given freely and blindly to those who not deserve it.

Then, she states:

"De Camp and Gunderson are both dead so they can't respond to the Interview."

In point of fact, I said nothing in this interview which I have not said repeatedly, either in written reports or on radio, going back at least fifteen years. There are no news flashes here, nothing these men had not already been aware of.

And Gunderson and DeCamp certainly have responded, many times, in many venues, in their defamation campaign against Barbara Hartwell. Anyone who does not believe this may easily find the evidence of their “responses” plastered all over the Internet, including John DeCamp's harassment and threats of a lawsuit against Barbara Hartwell, exploiting the network of his fellow criminals, sex predators (including targeting children), drug-traffickers and psycho stalkers, including predicate felon, career criminal, Timothy Patrick White and his accomplice, blackmailer, forger, identity thief, Todd Brendan Fahey,

And I don't do interviews (or write reports) in expectation of, nor seeking any “response”. I state the facts, for information purposes only. I have no control over what people believe, or the comments they decide to make.

The fact that Gunderson and DeCamp are dead is not an argument that carries any weight. That's like saying, Oh, I dare not make any negative comments about Adolf Hitler, Genghis Khan, Joseph Stalin, etc. etc. He's DEAD and can't defend himself! Very, very stupid.

"Then the quest takes down Alex Jones : I've personally listen to Alex Jones , for hours, for 8 years. He's honest. Judge him, then, by the quests on his Show."

Now, she establishes that she is a huge fan of Alex Jones, and claims, “He's honest”. I vehemently disagree and with good reason, based on my personal and professional experience of many years.

And no, I would not ever judge anyone (including Alex Jones) by the guests on his show. My assessment of a person's character is solely based on his own words and actions, and not by the company he keeps or the guests he promotes on his show.

I won't bother commenting on any of the names she mentions here, they are irrelevant to the issue of the credibility and legitimacy of Alex Jones himself, which in my opinion are nonexistent. I have personally known quite a number of legitimate people who have been guests on Alex Jones's show, most of whom later saw the truth, from their own experiences. Jones exploits credible guests to give credibility to himself and to further his own agenda. It is one of the oldest tricks in the book.

Next item:

"Alex Jones is honest. Alex Jones cares , firstly about Family. I wish Ramola more people would come out "yelling and hollering" and I'll tell you millions of educated listeners are relieved he does."

Aside from his longtime involvement in counterintelligence operations, Alex Jones is a loudmouthed grandstander and a narcissistic bully. True, he has drawn many hapless people into his media empire, and fleeced them for millions of dollars, but I would not call his fans “educated”. Rather, indoctrinated, by the very brand of counterintelligence propaganda engineered long ago by the likes COINTELPRO Kingpin Ted Gunderson.

As for his “caring” about “Family”? Perhaps this video of his ex-wife will shed some light on the true nature of Alex Jones.
EXCLUSIVE: Alex Jones' Ex-Wife Tells All, Conspiracies, Fake Supplements

Lastly, this:

"I repeat: Your guest is the disinfo agent. Period."

This credulous fool is entitled to her opinion, though clearly based on nothing more substantial than her subjective biases and utter lack of discernment.

But then, that is precisely what these counterintelligence propagandists count on, as they rake in the big bucks, laughing all the way to the bank.

Now, the second comment from another anonymous coward, hiding behind this screen name.


"I love how this lady brings up her personal relationship with the only two credible sources TargetedJustice has... heh I think heh this lady is heh heh full of heh SHIIIIIT!!"

Since he/she does not name the so-called “credible sources” to whom he refers, there is no way of knowing who they are. I mentioned quite a number of names in the interview. I have no idea what this “TargetedJustice” is, either.

But let this serve as a typical example of the crude and malicious mentality of those who have no better use for their time than shooting off their mouths on a public message board.

And now, for some actual evidence of just one of Ted Gunderson's many counterintelligence operations against whistleblowers and dissidents.

This is an excerpt from a report on this site, containing a portion of a document from my files, Ted Gunderson's letter to Larry Flynt. My comments follow.

Ted Gunderson's Published Proposal to Deploy COINTELPRO Tactics

Excerpt from Ted Gunderson's Letter to Larry Flynt

December 21, 1998
Larry Flynt
Flynt Publications


I. Counter Intelligence Operation
Organize a select group of trusted, loyal Americans to operate an effective legal counter-intelligence operation. The goal of a counter-intelligence operation is to educate and, in some instances, to disrupt the enemy by mailing anonymous letters to selected individuals and groups in order to create distrust and paranoia. Another goal is to furnish disinformation and create confusion. I was a counter-intelligence expert in the FBI and I am aware of numerous techniques with which to work towards this goal. I wish to emphasize we will not conduct any criminal or illegal activity, nor violate any laws. All activities would be legal. There are other techniques than can be used, in addition to anonymous letters, i.e., telephone calls from public telephones. Disinformation can also be spread on radio and television talk shows.

End of excerpt

First, I would say that Gunderson's choice of an accomplice for his operation, the notorious pornographer, publisher of Hustler magazine, has got to be the lowest sleazoid on the face of the earth. Ask yourself, who would want to do business with a low-life like Flynt?

Next, note that Ted Gunderson states that he was "a counter-intelligence expert in the FBI." Really? Then any reasonable person is left to draw the conclusion that Ted Gunderson was COINTELPRO, as that is the primary counter-intelligence operation in the FBI.

And now, he is looking to recruit more accomplices for his "legal" counter-intelligence operation.

"A select group of trusted, loyal Americans..."

Who could these "loyal Americans" be?

Let's start with some known associates of Ted L. Gunderson: Ken Adachi; Timothy Patrick White; Larry Lawson; Pamela Schuffert; John DeCamp. There are others, too numerous to mention, but these names will certainly be recognizable to anyone with an interest in the controversy this issue has generated over the past decade.

And for a damning statement, this one can't be beat:

"Disinformation can also be spread on radio and television talk shows."

So, Ted Gunderson, in his own words, suggests spreading disinformation! And as many of us who have become his targets know, he's done just that, and in spades.

I can't count the times that Ted has gone on the airwaves slandering Barbara Hartwell, stating that I am a "government spook" or "CIA disinfo agent."

[For the primary example, at least in print, see the New Age/government disinformation website of Gunderson's PR shill, Ken Adachi.]

Fact is, this operation has been running for a long time. Ted Gunderson, joined by his cronies and amateur recruits (government stooges Tim White, Pam Schuffert, Ken Adachi, Todd Fahey, Larry Lawson et al) have wreaked havoc on the lives of many COINTELPRO targets. And there is no end in sight.....

As far as I can see, this so-called "legal" counter-intelligence operation will continue until the lives of the targets are so far destroyed that there is no hope to repair the damages.

And by the way, there is nothing "legal" about fraud, criminal stalking, identity theft, extortion, criminal harassment, death threats, murder-for hire schemes, inciting violence and terrorism.....this operation is a criminal conspiracy par excellence, rife with most every crime imaginable. Racketeering at its finest.

As for the privacy invasions and the libel/slander campaigns against targets, I guess you might stretch it to say these are "legal". After all, these are civil matters.

And since most of the law enforcement to whom we have reported these crimes refuse to do anything to protect the targets of criminal harassment/stalking and threats of violence and death (which are crimes) --or more to the point, to enforce the law-- who is going to care that the reputations of decent, legitimate Messengers of Truth and Defenders of Liberty are being destroyed, along with every other area of our lives? Nobody. After all, that is what "neutralization" is all about.


I will be covering the subject of Ted Gunderson and his counterintelligence operations in much more detail in PART 3 of my interviews with Ramola D of The EveryDay Concerned Citizen.

Barbara Hartwell Percival
April 25, 2018