NOTE, February, 2007: This report (from my old website) has been adapted to remove references to a website on which it was also posted, and its unscrupulous editor. However, the issues addressed in this report remain consistent and timely: Namely, government stooges who promote disinformation about government operatives and those being handled by them, as well as about legitimate whistleblowers and survivors of black operations.
May, 2004
NO SUBSTITUTE FOR STUPIDITY: GOV'T STOOGE'S BACKLASH
All warfare is based on deception.
--Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Marilyn A. Guinnane, a former "flight attendant" and self-described "Writer", has emerged as one of the latest in a gaggle of loud-mouthed government stooges who have taken on the role of cheerleaders for the MK Ultra disinfo crowd, brazenly sallying forth, squawking in defense of Mr. Don Stacey, first exposed earlier this month, as part of a CIA containment operation hell bent on discrediting legitimate whistleblowers, high-level survivors of MK Ultra and CIA's related black operations.
In a letter written to ex-FBI agent Geral Sosbee [given below] the presumptuous and intrusive Ms. Guinnane oversteps her bounds once again in her shrill scolding of Mr. Sosbee for his defense and endorsement of Barbara Hartwell.
In fact, she is now harassing Geral Sosbee with daily unwanted e-mail to which he has no intention of responding. He's said all he has to say about the woman, whom he has dismissed as just another irksome "mental dwarf". Good call, Geral.
As for the ill-informed amateur Guinnane, her self-promoted claims to fame are: having her name listed in a "google" search; and having a few of her mediocre "letters to the editor" posted on Rense.com. (Yes, I took the time to read a few, all regurgitated rhetoric apparently based on the party-line, politically correct viewpoints of popular authors on 9-11; the merits of feminism, etc.)
But enough editorializing... why not let Ms. Guinnane speak for herself:
But enough editorializing... why not let Ms. Guinnane speak for herself:
MARIYLN GUINNANE'S LETTER TO GERAL SOSBEE
May 23, 2004
"Geral Sosbee,
I think it commendable in that you would defend your friend, Barbara Hartwell, just as I went to the aid of my friend, Don Stacey.
But I am here to tell you that without question, her attack on Don Stacey was not only unfounded, but riddled with more lies than you could shake a stick at. Unbelievable. I have concluded that she has either lost her mind, or is one rabid human being, and I'm sorry if she's endured MK Ultra, but that's no excuse to fabricate such incredible and vicious lies about someone, laced with more acid than a car's battery.
Look, break down her story: Why on God's earth would an investment banker suddenly affiliate himself with the CIA? Why would a seventy year old man start an investment banking firm that is a CIA 'front'? It's completely nuts.
Let me tell you of the absolute heroes I know of, fighting NWO tooth and nail and at great personal jeopardy: John Kaminski. His essays are read world-wide, and he is brilliant. Here's what Hartwell calls him: "A neo-Bolshevik." Well, that's cute, Babs, but when did you do much of anything but spew vitriol?
Another great hero: Sue Ford. She endured MK Ultra, as well. She wrote Thanks for the Memories, self-published, and deserves a medal for singing like a canary. Sue's daughter, MK Ultra victim as well, is incarcerated in an institution, so that (if I'm not mistaken) Don has helped her financially. What does our Barbara do? Slams Sue all over hell's half acre. What a swell gal, huh? I adore Sue Ford. And she adores Don Stacey. According to ol' Babs, Don is Sue's handler. PREPOSTEROUS, SIR!!!!! Ask Sue!!!! Hartwell lives in some kind of Loopy Land of the mind, whereupon she fantacizes all kinds of damaging-to-others crap that does not h! appen. Then she reports it as truth, and the likes of Geral Sosbee and [name removed] buy it, hook/line. Well, as P.T. Barnum said . . . "There's a . . . " ah, but you know the quote. After all, it applies.
But I've digressed.
Don Stacey is, in my estimation, the greatest hero of all. Not only is he indefatigable in his efforts to wake up Americans, but he's a thoroughly good person, through and through. I've never known anyone, save my dad, who deserved respect more than Don. He helps everybody. He even offered at one time to help Hartwell. When my husband died, he was the only one who asked if I was all right financially. The man is an absolute prince. He and I collaborate on letters that I write to newspaper editors. There's even one under my name, if you do a Google.
And Don is very ill. He's been battling pneumonia, in and out of the hospital so ! that they should keep a revolving door just for him. I'm worried silly about him, and someone unwittingly sent him Hartwell's cruel and vicious essay so that he read it upon coming home from yet another stay at the hospital.
There are two types of people in this world: The kind who suffer horribly yet emerge more humane, more compassionate, and those who suffer horribly and turn into a monster. Your 'best friend' has chosen the second path, sad to say.
By the way, the e-mail Hartwell wrote about, that Don sent her with regard to people dying in funny ways, I sent him. It was the Darwin Awards, and yes it is black humor. He in turn sent it to everyone on his list; I know because it came bouncing right back at me. There was no sinister intent. He was not threatening her royal highness Hartwell, who sees herself in the central position to the exclusion of all others.
I cannot believe this woman has created such an evil vortex around herself. She lives inside a cesspool of her own making. She spits poison like a cornered viper.
I'm sorry for her. And since you call her your friend, I'm sorry for you. Even so, she needs you, along with some sort of honest shrink, so go with my best wishes into the Hartwellian black night. I don't think for a New York minute you realize what you're mixed up with; I honestly don't. She is a mess. Yes, yes, MK Ultra would make anyone a mess. But that gives her no license to ruin the lives of others, innocents, dear and decent people.
To address her further at [site name removed] is to incite a heckler. It's what she reminds me of. Worse. Far worse.
Regards,
Marilyn A. Guinnane
Libertarian
Writer (do a search at Rense.com)"
But I am here to tell you that without question, her attack on Don Stacey was not only unfounded, but riddled with more lies than you could shake a stick at. Unbelievable. I have concluded that she has either lost her mind, or is one rabid human being, and I'm sorry if she's endured MK Ultra, but that's no excuse to fabricate such incredible and vicious lies about someone, laced with more acid than a car's battery.
Look, break down her story: Why on God's earth would an investment banker suddenly affiliate himself with the CIA? Why would a seventy year old man start an investment banking firm that is a CIA 'front'? It's completely nuts.
Let me tell you of the absolute heroes I know of, fighting NWO tooth and nail and at great personal jeopardy: John Kaminski. His essays are read world-wide, and he is brilliant. Here's what Hartwell calls him: "A neo-Bolshevik." Well, that's cute, Babs, but when did you do much of anything but spew vitriol?
Another great hero: Sue Ford. She endured MK Ultra, as well. She wrote Thanks for the Memories, self-published, and deserves a medal for singing like a canary. Sue's daughter, MK Ultra victim as well, is incarcerated in an institution, so that (if I'm not mistaken) Don has helped her financially. What does our Barbara do? Slams Sue all over hell's half acre. What a swell gal, huh? I adore Sue Ford. And she adores Don Stacey. According to ol' Babs, Don is Sue's handler. PREPOSTEROUS, SIR!!!!! Ask Sue!!!! Hartwell lives in some kind of Loopy Land of the mind, whereupon she fantacizes all kinds of damaging-to-others crap that does not h! appen. Then she reports it as truth, and the likes of Geral Sosbee and [name removed] buy it, hook/line. Well, as P.T. Barnum said . . . "There's a . . . " ah, but you know the quote. After all, it applies.
But I've digressed.
Don Stacey is, in my estimation, the greatest hero of all. Not only is he indefatigable in his efforts to wake up Americans, but he's a thoroughly good person, through and through. I've never known anyone, save my dad, who deserved respect more than Don. He helps everybody. He even offered at one time to help Hartwell. When my husband died, he was the only one who asked if I was all right financially. The man is an absolute prince. He and I collaborate on letters that I write to newspaper editors. There's even one under my name, if you do a Google.
And Don is very ill. He's been battling pneumonia, in and out of the hospital so ! that they should keep a revolving door just for him. I'm worried silly about him, and someone unwittingly sent him Hartwell's cruel and vicious essay so that he read it upon coming home from yet another stay at the hospital.
There are two types of people in this world: The kind who suffer horribly yet emerge more humane, more compassionate, and those who suffer horribly and turn into a monster. Your 'best friend' has chosen the second path, sad to say.
By the way, the e-mail Hartwell wrote about, that Don sent her with regard to people dying in funny ways, I sent him. It was the Darwin Awards, and yes it is black humor. He in turn sent it to everyone on his list; I know because it came bouncing right back at me. There was no sinister intent. He was not threatening her royal highness Hartwell, who sees herself in the central position to the exclusion of all others.
I cannot believe this woman has created such an evil vortex around herself. She lives inside a cesspool of her own making. She spits poison like a cornered viper.
I'm sorry for her. And since you call her your friend, I'm sorry for you. Even so, she needs you, along with some sort of honest shrink, so go with my best wishes into the Hartwellian black night. I don't think for a New York minute you realize what you're mixed up with; I honestly don't. She is a mess. Yes, yes, MK Ultra would make anyone a mess. But that gives her no license to ruin the lives of others, innocents, dear and decent people.
To address her further at [site name removed] is to incite a heckler. It's what she reminds me of. Worse. Far worse.
Regards,
Marilyn A. Guinnane
Libertarian
Writer (do a search at Rense.com)"
NO SUBSTITUTE FOR STUPIDITY: A TRIBUTE TO MARILYN A. GUINNANE
My (now deceased) father served in military intelligence (G-2), as a translator (he spoke 7 languages) and cryptographer. He was later recruited into CIA. He used to tell me, "Always remember one thing." (in intelligence work, or any area of life) "There's no substitute for stupidity".
Over the years, my father's astute comment has come to mind many times, especially on occasions such as this.
Over the years, my father's astute comment has come to mind many times, especially on occasions such as this.
Marilyn Guinanne is not only shamelessly ignorant and ill-informed about the topics on which she shoots off her mouth (including CIA; intelligence operations; MK Ultra; 9-11; feminism; the Libertarian party.....) and on which she claims to be a "Writer", she's downright stupid.
Indeed, her greatest talent appears to be a merciless butchering of the English language with her prodigal and redundant use of tortured cliches and mixed metaphors --as a poor substitute for facts and accurate, relevant information-- which could surely induce cognitive agony even in the functionally illiterate.
But Ms. Guinnane's lack of writing skills or low intelligence quotient are hardly the issues.
Since she has taken it upon herself to be a loud and aggressive mouthpiece for the alleged "heroism" of the CIA disinfo set, their minions and mind-controlled robots, she will have to learn the hard way that she is way out of her league; particularly when making a frontal assault on seasoned professionals who have actually WORKED for intelligence and law enforcement agencies and have first-hand knowledge and extensive training in intelligence work.
Since she has taken it upon herself to be a loud and aggressive mouthpiece for the alleged "heroism" of the CIA disinfo set, their minions and mind-controlled robots, she will have to learn the hard way that she is way out of her league; particularly when making a frontal assault on seasoned professionals who have actually WORKED for intelligence and law enforcement agencies and have first-hand knowledge and extensive training in intelligence work.
People who KNOW what they are talking about and who can back up their allegations with hard evidence. Hardworking, dedicated people who have done many years of their own investigations and research. People unlike Ms. Guinnane: A rank amateur who is merely parroting what she has heard or read on some conspiracy message board; in some self-published "biography"; or other venue of government-sponsored, controlled-opposition disinfo.
Ms. Guinnane first presumes to speak with authority on subjects she knows nothing about by parroting what she's been brainwashed to believe by folks such as Don Stacey, Susan Ford et al. She then proceeds to hurl insults and invective at people she does not know, such as Barbara Hartwell and Geral Sosbee. People about whom she knows absolutely nothing that is real or true.
But how very typical of the uneducated and the misinformed. I've seen her kind before. Ms. Guinnane is an attention-and-approval seeker whose dearth of knowledge is surpassed only by her delusions of herself as some sort of real "player" in the world of international politics. But I can assure her she's playing a fool's game against people a hell of a lot smarter than she is.
WHERE ARE THE FACTS?
Time to take look at some of Ms. Guinnane's wild allegations; outlandish accusations and uninformed speculation and refute them with hard facts.
Guinnane's comments are in quotes.
[My comments are in brackets, preceded by my initials, BH]
Guinnane's comments are in quotes.
[My comments are in brackets, preceded by my initials, BH]
MG: "Look, break down her story: Why on God's earth would an investment banker suddenly affiliate himself with the CIA? Why would a seventy year old man start an investment banking firm that is a CIA 'front'? It's completely nuts."
[BH: That's a great idea. Let's "break down the story". But to break down a story you have to deal with FACTS, not erroneous suppositions or paranoid fantasies. Ms. Guinnane is clearly unaware of the fact that CIA routinely operates through various and sundry front companies.
An international investment banking firm provides great cover and in fact many CIA operatives are investment bankers, just as some are journalists; "diplomats" ; or those in "foreign service" positions, known as "official cover" . Others, such as myself were utilized under "non-official cover" better known as NOC.
Stonebridge Associates, the company mentioned in my article [EXPOSED: CIA MKULTRA CONTAINMENT OP] was NOT started by "a seventy year old man". Mr. Stacey started the enterprise in 1986, according to his bio.
When I first heard from Mr. Stacey in 1998, he claimed to be sixty-two (62). If Stacey was 62 in '98 he would NOW be either 68 or 69, depending on what month he was born. In 1986, when he started the company he would have been around 51.
And there was nothing "sudden" about Mr. Stacey's affiliation with CIA. No, that would have been going on for years, at least as far back as 1986, since Stonebridge Associates has been functioning as a CIA cut out since that time. Yes, somebody appears to be "nuts"...but it's not myself, nor is it CIA.]
MG: "Let me tell you of the absolute heroes I know of, fighting NWO tooth and nail and at great personal jeopardy: John Kaminski. His essays are read world-wide, and he is brilliant. Here's what Hartwell calls him: "A neo-Bolshevik." Well, that's cute, Babs, but when did you do much of anything but spew vitriol?"
[BH: Real heroes! I called Kaminski a Neo-Bolshevik because that is precisely what he is. He supports a globalist, collectivist, left-wing agenda, straight out of the Communist Manifesto. And otherwise just whines about how hopeless and despairing his own life and the world at large has become. And don't call me "Babs", you impudent bimbo, that's reserved for my family and friends.]
MG: "Another great hero: Sue Ford. She endured MK Ultra, as well..... She wrote Thanks for the Memories, self-published, and deserves a medal for singing like a canary. Hartwell lives in some kind of Loopy Land of the mind, whereupon she fantacizes all kinds of damaging-to-others crap that does not happen. Then she reports it as truth, and the likes of Geral Sosbee buy it, hook/line. Well, as P.T. Barnum said . . . "There's a . . . " ah, but you know the quote. After all, it applies."
MG: "Another great hero: Sue Ford. She endured MK Ultra, as well..... She wrote Thanks for the Memories, self-published, and deserves a medal for singing like a canary. Hartwell lives in some kind of Loopy Land of the mind, whereupon she fantacizes all kinds of damaging-to-others crap that does not happen. Then she reports it as truth, and the likes of Geral Sosbee buy it, hook/line. Well, as P.T. Barnum said . . . "There's a . . . " ah, but you know the quote. After all, it applies."
[BH: Thanks for the Memories, I'm sorry to have to say, would have been more appropriately titled: Blowjobs in the White House. Read the book, cover to cover. How many times, under how many circumstances, does Sue Ford write about this particular sex act, ad nauseum, naming all the names of the politicians, entertainers and U.S. presidents with whom she engaged in fornication as a "sex slave".
It's disgusting. Do we really need to be subjected to this? Aside from the lurid sex scandals described in the book (which I'm sure made it a hot item and best-seller on the conspiracy circuit) what was the point? And as far as containing accurate historical information on MK Ultra? Sorry, but it just didn't happen, not in this book.
In truth, most of the projects under the umbrella of MK Ultra had nothing whatsoever to do with using people as "sex slaves". The REAL black operations, for which certain intelligence operatives (including myself) were originally trained under MK Ultra during the cold war era, had to do with "creating the perfect spy"; or Manchurian Candidate military assassins.
And here's another thing which I could hardly consider "heroic". Sue Ford, in one of her speeches at the Global Sciences Congress in Daytona Beach, Fla. 1998, claimed that: "Any survivor of MK Ultra who claims they did NOT abuse their own children is NOT a REAL survivor."
Well, I have news for Sue Ford and her handlers: I am a "real" survivor of MK Ultra. I was never a "sex slave" nor was I ever sexually abused by anyone, including anyone from CIA. As I've said before, I would have killed any man or woman who attempted to sexually abuse me. And I sure as hell never "abused" ANY child, certainly not my own son!
And in case the credulous fool, Marilyn Guinnane, is about to cry "liar!" or "viper!" again, I suggest she get one of the original copies of the videotape called Mind Control Goes Public, being sold all over the Internet, in which this horribly false statement by Sue Ford is memorialized. I have it on tape, and I heard it with my own ears, sitting in the front row at the conference, in Daytona Beach Florida. It made me sick to my stomach.
To make such an outrageous claim is irresponsible and unconscionable. To attempt to drag all other survivors of government mind control operations down to this level, just because SHE was guilty of abusing her own daughter is the least "heroic" act I can imagine.
It's not surprising her daughter is in a mental ward. Even worse, such a statement provides cover for any abuser: "They couldn't help it, they were under mind control!"... Bullshit. Mind control can only work with what's there inside an individual to begin with.
Yes, some people may be submissive by nature, and can be made into sex slaves. Some may have it "in them" that they could abuse a child, including their own. But in my own case, I kicked ass up and down several states, including New York, Connecticut and Massachusetts to PREVENT any sort of abuses to my child from any of the government bastards who would have loved to get their grimy hands on him.
Considering the family I was raised in, a combination bootcamp/charm school, I also trained my own son in self-defense, martial arts and basic intelligence work so he could take good care of himself, should the need arise.
As for the "heroism" of Don Stacey? Read my article on the CIA MK Ultra Containment Op. If you still think he's a hero, you can join the "resistance" movement with Ms. Guinnane. But better first to bend over and kiss your ass goodbye]
MG: "She needs.... some sort of honest shrink, She [Barbara Hartwell] is a mess. Yes, yes, MK Ultra would make anyone a mess. But that gives her no license to ruin the lives of others, innocents, dear and decent people. "
[BH: First of all, this stupid, presumptuous, meddling bitch knows nothing about MK Ultra or about what I "need". I don't need a "shrink" and I'm far from being a "mess". I broke out of MK Ultra and escaped from CIA's black ops by the grace of God, over ten years ago.
If this pathetic creature thinks she can impugn my sanity by such gratuitous libel, she'd better think again, and listen up while the listening's good, because before I'm through with her she'll be singing a different tune.
Secondly, she's got it all very, very wrong. On the contrary, the "innocent" and "dear and decent people" to whom she refers, namely Don Stacey and Sue Ford, have attempted to ruin MY life with their lies and manipulation. Fortunately for me, they did not succeed. My association with both of them, and the unscrupulous crowd they hang out with, was short lived. I saw through them and cut them off before they could do any serious damage.
But let's talk about OUTRAGE, shall we? I'm mad as hell about having been targeted for character assassination by halfwits such as Marilyn Guinnane and other government stooges who are wittingly or unwittingly doing the dirty work of the government-sponsored slimebags they worship as "heroes".
Some of us know the real secrets of CIA's deep black projects, mind control horrors which have never seen the light of day or public exposure . Here's a hint: It's not about "sex slaves".
Truly, there's no substitute for stupidity.
Barbara Hartwell
May 25, 2004
