In this segment, I address Ted Gunderson's involvement in the infamous McMartin Preschool case of Satanic Ritual Abuse. Those who want details, dates and times will have to look up the case for themselves. I also have some reports on this site, but have not provided the links. Readers may easily find them in an on-site or online search, using my name.
This particular report focuses only on Ted Gunderson's claims, versus those of Jackie McGauley, the primary whistleblower and mother of one of the children at the school.
I first got to know Jackie in 2002, when she contacted me after reading some of my reports and listening to my radio broadcasts exposing her former partner, Ted Gunderson. Jackie graciously provided me with documentation, actual evidence for her claims. I still have some of the documents in hardcopy and/or in my computer files. Some may have been stolen years ago.
I did not investigate the case. My reports are only as a journalist who interviewed Jackie McGauley. Before that, when I was working with Ted, I had no reason not to believe his side of the story. The McMartin case was extremely controversial. It was denounced as a hoax by many uninformed people, including journalists, promoting the “Satanic Panic” propaganda. But after spending many hours with Jackie on the phone, I had no doubt that the case was real.
Children's lives were destroyed. Families were torn apart. Childhood sex abuse is soul-shattering. I've investigated enough cases, heard enough heart-wrenching testimony, even aside from the McMartin case, to know.
If not for Jackie as my source, I would never have had access to any actual facts or authentic documents.
I thank her, from the bottom of my heart.
Barbara Hartwell
May 21, 2026
OPEN LETTER TO EX-FBI AGENT TED GUNDERSON
A Public Report on Criminal Conspiracy & Racketeering (2005)
https://barbarahartwellvscia.blogspot.com/2006/11/open-letter-to-ex-fbi-agent-ted.html
JACKIE MCGAULEY, MCMARTIN PRESCHOOL, TUNNEL DIG
Ted Gunderson: "You claim that Jackie McGauley, my former girl friend during the McMartin investigation, is the primary "whistle-blower" of the McMartin pre-school child abuse atrocities and not me. I never claimed I was."
Well, maybe you did not make that claim, not in those exact words. Are we back to the fine-toothed comb, the minutiae, again? But you did represent yourself as if you were the primary whistleblower, to me and others, many times. In fact, I never once heard you mention Jackie's name in your public talks. I never heard of Jackie until she contacted me herself in 2002.
The McMartin case is listed on your resume, which I still have copies of. Ken Adachi aggressively promotes you as the McMartin Hero as well. At the time, I had no reason not to believe you. But since I have to make a determination, upon information and belief, as to who is telling the truth, I believe Jackie, since she has provided me with hard evidence, whereas you have not.
Ted Gunderson: "You claim that McGauley raised the money for the archaeological McMartin tunnel dig. Quite an accomplishment for someone who was destitute at the time."
Jackie told me she and other parents of the abused children raised the money through soliciting public contributions for the dig. She has documentation for that, as well as the other parents, for witnesses.
Jackie has also tesitified that she was not "destitute" at the time when the money was being raised. In fact, she was employed at the time at a brokerage company. She was an entry writer at LAX Airport, who worked in conjunction with U.S. Customs. She was even offered a position working directly for Customs, which she declined to accept. The "destitution" came later, as she testified, after you had been living in her house.
Ted Gunderson: "You claim McGauley threw me out of "her" house; (you mean the 'house' that I was paying the rent on?)"
I published Jackie McGauley's direct personal testimony in my letter to Noreen Gosch. I personally made no such claims. Again, I have no evidence that you were paying her rent or other bills. But Jackie has evidence, credit card statements, etc. to substantiate her claims. I have seen some of the evidence and in fact, some is actually posted on http://www.stewwebb.com for anyone who wants to see it.
Ted Gunderson: "You claim that I left her in debt $30,000; (she was destitute when I met her); and that I stole $30,000 from her (she never had $30,000 in her life)."
Again, Jackie tells a different story. When she first met you, she was in fact earning a salary that allowed her to make trips to Europe every year. Jackie has said you left her $30,000 in debt. She states that these bills were run up by you on her credit card (because you yourself had no credit) and has the documentation to prove it. She declared bankruptcy and has evidence of that too.
Ted Gunderson: "The truth is that I left McGauley because she was untruthful and unfaithful to me. I supported her and her two children for more that 4 years (this included rent, food, and ALL other expenses including clothes, electricity, water, and even an automobile) McGauley couldn't hold down a job because she couldn't get along with her employers. She was never employed while I was with her except for two jobs, which she couldn't hold down for more than 4 or 5 weeks and she never had money from any other source, except child support for her kids. I provided more than 90% of all support for her and her kids. After we broke up, she refused to return to me a number of costly items in the house that I had paid for and was the rightful owner of."
Again, it comes down to her word against yours. I'm sorry, Ted, but I don't believe you, especially after all the falsehoods you have told about me personally, as well as others, such as Stew Webb. I don't know exactly what went on between you and Jackie. I wasn't there. But I do have more reason to believe her and if I publish her testimony, that is why. She also has the hard evidence to substantiate her claims.
Ted Gunderson: "You and McGauley claim I had nothing to do with the McMartin case. I arranged for and coordinated the McMartin tunnel dig. This was the very dig that produced the 186 pages of documented evidence, authored by archaeologist Dr. Gary Stickel of UCLA, that proved the existence of the tunnels under the McMartin preschool. These were the tunnels that the children from McMartin had repeatedly referred to in their testimony to therapists and investigators. Proving the existence of the tunnels under the McMartin school proved that the children were telling the truth all along and that they were not making up stories in response to 'leading questions' from their therapists, as falsely reported in the media and in the courtroom.
Review the McGauley and Dr. Gary Stickel Tunnel Report which was written after I left McGauley. Even though I spent $17,000 of my own money on the tunnel dig, signed the contract with the property owner, and assumed the entire liability; McGauley did list me in one place in that 186 page report as the "coordinator" (Thank you Jackie). Ask McGauley to furnish you a copy of the contract that I signed with the property owner and you will see that it doesn't have McGauley's name on it. The truth is that McGauley sold this report, made hundreds of dollars from its sale, and never sent any of the profits from the report to any of the other victim's families- the families who had funded the balance of the cost for the dig which ended up costing somewhere between $55,000 to $60,000. Jackie McGauley, for your information, did not contribute one dime to the cost of the dig."
Re the dig: once again, I know that Jackie has documented evidence in a report. If you could furnish hard evidence which supports your claims, and which disproves Jackie's claims, then please, by all means, publish it. Otherwise, at least for me, it's just a baseless argument on your part, which leads nowhere. Your word against Jackie's. I certainly have never claimed to be an expert on the case. I haven't investigated it myself, I wasn't involved. But that does not mean I cannot come to a conclusion, based on Jackie's testimony and the evidence she has furnished, which supports her claims.
END EXCERPT
Signed by Jackie McGauley & Gary Stickel
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