"You admit you were once in the CIA. There are no alumni in the CIA. Once a CIA agent, always a CIA agent. If you attempt to get out or expose them, you either go to jail or you die."
-Ted Gunderson, from Open Letter to Barbara Hartwell
Here we are, at the end of the line. At least as regards my open letter to Ted Gunderson, written 21 years ago.
When I decided to revisit this letter, I had been searching my archives for something else and located some related information therein.
As I reread the old letter (which I hadn't done in decades), I realized I had forgotten some of the details. Like about the Art Bell lawsuit. In those days (1997-2000), Ted would always call me with news of every event. At the time, I was living in Woodstock, NY, across the Hudson river from where I am now.
Ted had quite a flair for the dramatic. When he called to tell me Art Bell was suing him, he seemed genuinely outraged, and was yelling over the phone. At that time, I of course believed pretty much anything he told me. And to this day, I don't know what actually happened. I don't know, because I saw no evidence. To me, evidence is King. No evidence, no confirmation, no conviction. All I know is that I later learned that it was settled out of court, but Ted's insurance paid.
Looking back on it, this war between me and Ted was in some ways so absurd that it could have been material for the Jerry Springer show!
Except it isn't my way to get into such altercations, especially not in public. My policy is, I just cut off contact with my adversaries, once I know there is no hope, that there are irreconcilable differences. Then, if the issues are public, I document what I find necessary, in my own defense or that of others, as a matter of principle and for my own security.
So, even though Ted kept on trying to contact me, from the time I broke off our association, I never responded directly. He also sent a number of emissaries after me, but they failed in their mission as well. (Maybe stories for another time.)
For years, he appeared on “conservative” radio shows, and on the lecture circuit (where we used to work together) slandering me, claiming I was CIA, a “shadow government spook”, ranting that I was “under mind control”. Of course, his large audience of hero-worshipers believed every word he uttered.
Oh, the drama of it all! But in reality, the irony. For Ted, the Patriot Celebrity, was himself doing just about everything of which he accused me.
But the saddest part came at the end of Ted's life, in 2011. Some of Ted's cronies (who hated me because I had exposed them as criminals, liars and rabid Jew-haters) actually appeared on a podcast, making claims about what Ted said on his death bed.
They, too, were heavy on the drama. According to them, Ted broke down in tears, and said, “I tried to stop her, but I couldn't.”
The way they told it, it sounded as if he actually believed what he was lamenting: Barbara Hartwell was the evil CIA agent -that was the truth. At the time, I hadn't spoken to Ted in more than a decade.
But stop me from what?
Only God knows, because I surely don't.
To this day, I pray for his soul. Never did I have any malice in my heart for Ted. Righteous anger? Yes. Outrage? For sure.
The fact is, I loved Ted and still do. But that did not stop me from doing what I had to do. Nor should it have done. I told the truth and suffered the consequences.
Barbara Hartwell
May 22, 2026
OPEN LETTER TO EX-FBI AGENT TED GUNDERSON
A Public Report on Criminal Conspiracy & Racketeering (2005)
https://barbarahartwellvscia.blogspot.com/2006/11/open-letter-to-ex-fbi-agent-ted.html
Ted Gunderson: "You state Art Bell contacted you to be a witness against me in his lawsuit against me. Bell claimed I accused him of being a child molester (another lie). I have never said nor have I ever called Art Bell a child molester- on the radio or anywhere else."
No, Ted, I did NOT state that Art Bell himself contacted me. I stated that I was contacted by his attorneys, through another witness. I won't name the witness. And I at no time stated that you called Art Bell a child molester. Let's be fair, shall we? Go back and read what I actually wrote and you'll see for yourself. Maybe just one more thing you don't remember, but you called me on the day that you received the legal notice about Bell's lawsuit, in the spring of 1998. You were very agitated about it, at least you sounded that way on the phone. At the time, we were friends and I sympathized with you. I also believed you when you said you had not called Art Bell a child molester.
I also stated that I DECLINED to testify because I had no evidence that directly related to the case. Despite what you may believe about me, I am not a liar and I had no wish to become a witness against you. The case had nothing to do with me. And in any case, I would have no reason to want to help Art Bell. I do not support what he does and I do not believe him to be legitimate. In my opinion, he's just another propagandist for the NWO.
Ted Gunderson: "Art Bell sued me for the purpose of destroying my reputation as you are attempting to do now and for the money which was given to him by my insurance company in an out-of-court settlement (that I did not want and was not a party to its agreement) rather than finance an expensive trial. (Didn't you notice that Bell retired after receiving the money?) The most ludicrous lie of all is your claim that I said John De Camp is a child molester. You just opened yourself up for a lawsuit.”
[NOTE: Ted did in fact admit that John DeCamp was a pedophile, but only because I confronted him directly about what I knew. He knew that I knew, and that was the only reason he would admit that he also knew. Ted tried to make excuses for DeCamp, which I wasn't buying. I told him in no uncertain terms that DeCamp is a criminal and belongs behind bars. And shortly after Ted wrote this letter to me, DeCamp began his very public threats of a lawsuit against me. He never did sue, as I knew he would not. He did not know what evidence I had, and was not about to take the risk. Gunderson covered for him.
This issue was the beginning of the end of my relationship with Ted Gunderson. I could not in good conscience continue the association, knowing what I knew. And as usual, it was my reputation which was destroyed as a result of their massive slander campaign.]
Art Bell may have retired then, but he's back on the air now, isn't he? I know about the insurance settlement and have no reason to dispute that.
NEW WORLD ORDER CRIMINAL CONSIPRACY ENTERPRISE?
Ted Gunderson: "It makes sense that you, Webb, Art Bell, and others would jointly defame those of us who are exposing the New World Order criminal conspiracy enterprise. You, Barbara, are an obvious CIA MK-ULTRA victim; Webb is an FBI informant; Bell is a liar and disinformation specialist for the dark side (which he clearly demonstrated in his recent radio interview with Ben Chertoff, the 911 conspiracy debunker), and Jackie McGauley, a 'wannabe' looking for attention and recognition. What a motley crew.
You admit you were once in the CIA. There are no alumni in the CIA. Once a CIA agent, always a CIA agent. If you attempt to get out or expose them, you either go to jail or you die."
No, Ted, I am not an "MK Ultra victim". Not anymore, and it's been a long, long time since I was. That serves as a convenient excuse for you to try to discredit me, doesn't it? Yes, I admitted I was once in CIA. There was no reason for me to lie about that. But I have news for you, Ted: I'm out of it and have been since 1994.
Your claim that anyone who gets out or exposes them goes to jail or dies, is the same old facile argument that so many people make. Even stooges like Ken Adachi, Todd Fahey or Tim White, who don't know what the hell they're talking about. But you Ted, should know better than that. I believe you do know better, because just like me, you're a professional. There are exceptions, not many, but there certainly are. And I am one of them, thanks to the grace of God.
It's not as if they haven't tried; attempts have been made on my life, using drugs, poison, exotic weaponry. They arranged car "accidents". I've had cars explode and even dodged some bullets. To this day, they deny I ever worked for them. I can't get disability benefits, nor even social security, since I have no official employment history. I'm destitute, flat broke and up against these government rat bastards alone, still fighting them.
But I DO NOT work for CIA. I DO NOT support or endorse their activities. I am not dead, nor in jail. Only God knows when my time is up, not you, not CIA. Not Porter Goss, not John Negroponte. Not Dick Cheney. Not George W. Bush. So maybe you people, who all claim I am still being handled by CIA, need to open up your minds to the possibility that there are exceptions to every rule. And more importantly, that With God, All Things Are Possible.
As for Stew Webb, he is my good friend and a legitimate whistle-blower and your claim that he can be defined as an "FBI Informant" does not hold water. Jackie McGauley is not a "wannabe". She is the mother of a victim of child abuse who has been put through a living hell, and who has done more for the cause of exposing these crimes against children than you have ever done, or will ever do. She also, is my friend and she is a courageous woman for standing up to you and others like you and for telling the truth. Risking her life to do so, just as Stew and I have done.
Ted Gunderson: "In summary, the world shall discover that you are part of a genuine evil conspiracy. The tactic that you are using is a 100% communist style smear campaign to take up the time of those who are devoted to investigating and discovering the truth with no or very little compensation. You and your criminal associates are pretenders. I'll give you credit for one thing -- you are very good with your campaign propaganda efforts. This is the first and last time that I shall rebut your lies as my time is valuable and I have more important things to do. Ultimately, truth shall triumph. I have always stood on truth. I refuse any further arguments with programmed propaganda idiots like you!"
You, Ted Gunderson, are truly amazing the way you have twisted the truth to place the blame on me, Stew Webb, Jackie McGauley and others, for the very tactics and crimes that you yourself are guilty of. But the difference is, we have solid evidence. Where's yours?
If you'd like to talk about a "motley crew", here's one for you: Tim White, Ken Adachi, Todd Fahey, Brenda Negri, Larry Lawson, James Choron, Dennis Bossack, Doug Millar, Pam Schuffert...just to name a number of y'all.
But I'm no "programmed propaganda idiot". You've made a grave mistake if you have underestimated me, my intelligence or my training. But then, I'd have to say, so did CIA. Tough.
And I want no further arguments with you and your little gaggle of flunkies, provocateurs, porno-mongers, blackmailers, extortionists, nutcases, drug-dealers and pathological liars, either. I have nothing further to say to them and aside from presenting my evidence against them in court, won't waste much more of my time on them.
My time is valuable too. So I'm through talking. If this were the Old West, we could have a shoot-out at the OK Corral. But times have changed and we're more civilized now, aren't we? So let's have it out in court, shall we? Let the scales of justice balance as they will. Let the chips fall where they may.
Ted Gunderson: "Your actions (lies) speak for themselves. Our accomplishments speak for us. Aside from your propaganda efforts, what have you, Webb, who shoots off his mouth with absolutely no documentation, Art Bell, and Jackie McGauley accomplished? Absolutely nothing, except give aid and comfort to the satanic One World Government traitors who would enslave us."
Well, sorry to burst your bubble, Ted, but there is plenty of documentation, especially from Stew Webb, whom you claim has none. You, and the readers of this report, may find it at: http://stewwebb.com
[NOTE: Site is defunct]
Especially, see the section dedicated to you, Ted L. Gunderson. It's easy to find, there's a swastika, an FBI medallion and a photo of George W. Bush, raising his middle finger to America. BUSH NAZI GOONS.
As for myself, I have given no "aid and comfort" to any "evil conspiracy" or satanic New World Order. That, I truly believe, with much sadness, is your province. But just how long do you think this charade can go on? And I think I've done quite a credible job of outlining the "accomplishments" of the criminal element you defend. People (more like maggots, than human beings) like Tim White, for instance. Their "accomplishments" --mark my words-- will land them in jail, doing hard time, right where they belong.
Ted Gunderson: “As the old Wendy's commercial used to state: "where's the beef?"
Shame on all of you. Do the righteous people of the world a service and, like other slimy creatures, slither back into the hole from which you came.
Ted L Gunderson, FBI-SAC(Ret)"
Time to wrap it up. See how many of the readers think the "beef" is in this report. Your credentials are impressive Ted, no doubt about it. I guess your lackeys think so too, since they have none of their own. But, as God would tell you, assuming you were listening, it is what is in your heart that counts. That, and what your actions prove.
By their fruits shall you know them.
I'm very sorry for you, Ted Gunderson, that you have turned away from God. I don't know how long ago that happened, or why. Or even if you ever knew God to begin with. But if you ever decide to come clean, I'm sure He will be listening.
Barbara Hartwell
Believer in the Gospel of Jesus Christ
Enemy of the New World Order Police State
Defender of the United States Constitution
April 17, 2005
RELATED REPORTS
GOVERNMENT SPOOKS & GOONS I HAVE KNOWN: A SERIES OF CRIME REPORTS SEPARATING FACT FROM FICTION-PART 10:
GOVERNMENT SPOOKS & GOONS I HAVE KNOWN: A SERIES OF CRIME REPORTS SEPARATING FACT FROM FICTION-PART 9: Corrupt FBI Agents, FBI Informants & Ted Gunderson Vs. Federal Whistleblower Stew Webb
GOVERNMENT SPOOKS & GOONS I HAVE KNOWN: A SERIES OF CRIME REPORTS SEPARATING FACT FROM FICTION-PART 8: Outrageous Defamatory Falsehoods & Slander Campaign Against Barbara Hartwell by Lowlife Scum Criminals
GOVERNMENT SPOOKS & GOONS I HAVE KNOWN: A SERIES OF CRIME REPORTS SEPARATING FACT FROM FICTION-PART 7: Government Stooges & COINTELPRO Minions Promote Wild Conspiracy Theories on the New World Order & Johnny Gosch Case
https://barbarahartwellvscia.blogspot.com/2026/05/government-spooks-goons-i-have-known_0713284758.html
GOVERNMENT SPOOKS & GOONS I HAVE KNOWN: A SERIES OF CRIME REPORTS SEPARATING FACT FROM FICTION-PART 6: Smoke Screens, Psy Ops, Child Sex-Trafficking & Murder-for-Hire Set Ups
GOVERNMENT SPOOKS & GOONS I HAVE KNOWN: A SERIES OF CRIME REPORTS SEPARATING FACT FROM FICTION-PART 5: Ted Gunderson's Massive Counterintelligence Operation Against Barbara Hartwell
https://barbarahartwellvscia.blogspot.com/2026/05/government-spooks-goons-i-have-known.html
GOVERNMENT SPOOKS & GOONS I HAVE KNOWN: A SERIES OF CRIME REPORTS SEPARATING FACT FROM FICTION-PART 4: Ted Gunderson's Containment Operation Against Barbara Hartwell Sinks to New Lows of Criminality
https://barbarahartwellvscia.blogspot.com/2026/04/government-spooks-goons-i-have-known_30.html
GOVERNMENT SPOOKS & GOONS I HAVE KNOWN: A SERIES OF CRIME REPORTS SEPARATING FACT FROM FICTION-PART 3: Ted Gunderson, The Franklin Coverup & the Case of MK Ultra Survivor Irene Adrian
https://barbarahartwellvscia.blogspot.com/2026/04/government-spooks-goons-i-have-known.html
GOVERNMENT SPOOKS & GOONS I HAVE KNOWN: A SERIES OF CRIME REPORTS SEPARATING FACT FROM FICTION- PART 2: FORMER SENATOR JOHN DECAMP THREATENS LIBEL LAWSUIT AGAINST BARBARA HARTWELL- CIA BITCH, WE ARE COMING FOR YOU
https://barbarahartwellvscia.blogspot.com/2026/04/government-spooks-goons-i-have-known_19.html
GOVERNMENT SPOOKS & GOONS I HAVE KNOWN: A SERIES OF CRIME REPORTS SEPARATING FACT FROM FICTION– PART 1: CHILD SEX PREDATOR JOHN DECAMP & THE FRANKLIN (DOUBLE) COVERUP
https://barbarahartwellvscia.blogspot.com/2026/04/government-spooks-goons-i-have-known_24.html
RIP TED GUNDERSON
NOVEMBER 7, 1928-JULY 31, 2011
