THE SHADOW KNOWS: Former FBI & CIA Counterintelligence Experts on Celebrity Super Spook Ted (“The Gun”) Gunderson

 

 

 

 

 

 

TED GUNDERSON IN HIS FBI OFFICE

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false."

--William Casey, CIA Director (1981)

"Expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, neutralize or otherwise eliminate" the activities of these movements and their leaders."

-- Directives governing COINTELPRO issued to FBI agents by J. Edgar Hoover

"According to my belief, and I have as good of, uh, access to information as anyone in the world, probably, anyone I know of. About 30% of what's written on Veterans Today, is patently false. About 40% of what I write, is at least purposely, partially false, because if I didn't write false information I wouldn’t be alive. I simply have to do that. I write...anything I write I write between the lines."

--Gordon Duff, from radio program hosted by Mike Harris, RBN (2012)

"On March 24, 1971, I became the first reporter to inform readers that the FBI wanted the American people to think there was an 'FBI agent behind every mailbox.'"

--Betty Medsger, former Washington Post reporter, author of The Burglary: the Discovery of J. Edgar Hoover's Secret FBI

"The government lies, lies all the time, and lies even when the truth would serve it well."

--Dave Champion, talk show host, former Army Ranger, former police officer, author of INCOME TAX SHATTERING THE MYTHS, America's foremost expert on the misapplication of the Federal Income Tax aka “the largest financial crime in the history of the world”.

"By 1973 Ted Gunderson was fbi inspector and served in that capacity during most or all of my remaining years in the fbi. Gunderson was knowledgeable of my reports on the Rodriquez case and of the orders from Hoover to end my career.

By 1978 the New York office (under SAC Alfred E. Smith) orchestrated my forced resignation with the full knowledge of the fbi assistant director, New York division, and with Ted Gunderson's blessing.

Thus, by connecting the dots over the past several decades, I am certain that Hoover, his henchmen Jenkins, Gunderson, et. al, all participated in the destruction of my life in order to discredit and discourage me from reporting the many crimes committed by fbi agents.

Today, the fbi is in near panic mode to 'finish me off', as I have documented in many pages of my website. The fbi's methods to torture, imprison, force suicide or kill Targets has become the primary focus of my work online for the past 14 years.

Thanks in part to my friend Barbara Hartwell, I have been able to survive and to expand my reports on the unending attacks on me by the most heinous thugs whom this nation has ever produced: the homicidal sociopaths of fbi/cia."

--Former FBI Agent Geral Sosbee (2014)

"The devastating effects of the illegal and traitorous activities of fbi/cia Cointel chiefs such as Ted Gunderson (Gun), Al Smith, James Brien Comey, et al, are profoundly embedded in the national psyche and are inherently and imperceptibly destructive of American rights and values.

So that today many Americans in their blind trust in and support for so-called leaders have become 1) insensitive to atrocities and 2) participants in or *accessories to the many felonies committed in their name. Wars, assassinations, torture, all are ongoing today here as well as "over there". (See my affidavits 2007 and 2014 for specifics) .

Gun and his defenders hide the truth from the public because an enlightened people cannot tolerate a murderous, inhumane government which will stop at nothing to achieve its **outrageous objectives. A righteous domestic uprising will certainly be met with mass murders and incarceration by USA gens d'armes and Cointel operatives.

Thus the people are metaphorically hog tied by the homicidal psychopaths who dictate national policy and who by guile and trickery have the confidence of the general population.”

--Geral Sosbee (2015)

"I'll give you credit for one thing. You are very good at your Campaign Propaganda efforts."

--Ted Gunderson to Barbara Hartwell, from his Open Letter to Barbara Hartwell, published by Ken Adachi on 'Educate-Yourself' (2005)

"I was very active in the COINTELPRO program. Particularly the [media] back East during the 1960s, and through the Vietnam War. You know we used it against them [the media and activists] and it was very effective. And it’s very effective today. And they’re using it today. But what they’re doing today, makes the old COINTELPRO program by the FBI back in the 60s look like a Sunday school class."

--Ted Gunderson publicly acknowledges his involvement in COINTELPRO. (Quote taken from radio interview with Alex Jones.)

"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows..."

--Walter B. Gibson

Theodore L. Gunderson (November 7, 1928 - July 31, 2011[1]) was an American Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agent In Charge and head of the Los Angeles FBI. According to his son he worked on the Marilyn Monroe and the John F. Kennedy cases.[2][3] He was the author of the best selling book How to Locate Anyone Anywhere

Ted Gunderson was born in Colorado Springs. He graduated from the University of Nebraska in 1950. Gunderson joined the Federal Bureau of Investigation in December 1951 under J. Edgar Hoover. He served in the Mobile, Knoxville, New York City, and Albuquerque offices. He held posts as an Assistant Special Agent-in-Charge in New Haven and Philadelphia. In 1973 he became the head of the Memphis FBI and then the head of the Dallas FBI in 1975.[5] Ted Gunderson was appointed the head of the Los Angeles FBI in 1977.[6] In 1979 he was one of a handful interviewed for the job of FBI director, which ultimately went to William H. Webster.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Gunderson

The above entry in Wikipedia is probably the first thing you will find when placing Ted Gunderson's name in a search engine. It is the official story, shrink wrapped and presented to the public by the government. And no doubt, the facts given here are true.

But there is another story, also true, which will not appear on the government-controlled sites such as Wikipedia. Some of the story has been told, in bits and pieces, here and there, from sources credible and trustworthy. Some of the story has been tainted by lies and disinformation, even black propaganda. The friends and supporters of Ted Gunderson may remain loyal because they are emotionally attached, and/or have been hoodwinked, and/or because they have something to lose if the truth comes out. The enemies of Ted Gunderson may fabricate tales and bear false witness, either out of malice, and/or because they also have something to lose if the truth comes out.

Speaking for myself, I can state with conviction that I have nothing to lose if the truth comes out. Not because I've already lost so much that there is nothing left to lose (there is), but because the truth can only vindicate me and the others who have worked for decades, shedding our blood, sweat and tears, in the pursuit of justice for the atrocities visited upon us, our loved ones, and the American people in general.

Ted Gunderson certainly exemplified the general attitudes which were the driving force behind such grievous injustices and the betrayal of a nation by its intelligence services and their minions, toadies and dupes.

Like all such stories, the saga of 'patriot celebrity' Ted Gunderson has spawned conspiracy theories galore; it has many elements of mystery, which may never be solved, even should the facts somehow miraculously all be documented, the evidence presented and wrapped up in a tidy package. True stories don't work that way. As in quantum physics, where the results of experiments are influenced by the observer, so do the consciousness and perceptions of witnesses and participants become inextricably woven into the fabric of the story.

But of all the array of information that may be presented, from various and diverse sources, be they hard indisputable facts, documented evidence, wild speculation, idle gossip, unwarranted assumptions, it is a story we would do well not to ignore. Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it.

This report examines the recent efforts made by two well known purveyors of false information, Gordon Duff, editor of 'Veterans Today', and Ken Adachi, editor of 'Educate-Yourself', to prop up the dubious reputation of the late Ted L. Gunderson, FBI Chief/COINTELPRO Kingpin.

Adachi, a malicious liar extraordinaire, who runs a government disinfo website (also rife with New Age quackery), has been holding Gunderson aloft as an icon of patriotism and integrity since at least 2000, while concurrently running a massive libel/slander campaign against Barbara Hartwell.

Adachi claims that Barbara Hartwell is a “CIA disinfo agent”, a smear he parrots from Gunderson, the Master of Disinfo himself. Gunderson was J. Edgar Hoover's protege', instrumental since at least 1956 in COINTELPRO's war on American citizens who have chosen to exercise their God-given, unalienable right to disagree with the government (as well we should!)

Gordon Duff, who unlike Adachi, has admitted to being a liar (his public statement that 30-40% of the material he publishes on Veterans Today is “patently false”), has published an article titled, The Strange Case of Ted Gunderson.

It is important to state that I do not know either Ken Adachi or Gordon Duff. I base my analyses of these individuals on their own published statements and on their observed and documented actions over a period of years.

But I did know Ted Gunderson, very well. He was at one time a professional colleaugue and a close personal friend.

I worked with Ted from 1997 to 2000. I worked cases with him, went on the lecture circuit with him (as well as TV and radio interviews), and broke off my association with him when I discovered the truth – that Ted Gunderson was not the patriotic hero and whistleblower I had believed him to be. That he had come into my life not to “help” me or support me in my cause of pursuing justice for the crimes CIA had committed against me and members of my family (of which he was well aware), but had been planted on me by that very same Agency, in their attempts to “contain” the true story I had decided to come forth as a government whistleblower, to tell.

Ted Gunderson was running a containment operation/protection racket, the objective of which was to discredit and neutralize actual whistleblowers (former military, law enforcement & intelligence professionals) who were deemed a threat to “National Security”. I have known quite a number of these individuals, some of whom have shared their stories with me (along with documentation), some of whom have gone public, others who have not. But they all tell the same basic story about the consequences they suffered as a result of their involvement (in one way or another) with Ted Gunderson and his criminal accomplices.

I should say right up front that Ted Gunderson broke my heart. This may seem a strange statement, considering the fact that after I broke off my association with him (2000), up until the day he died (2011), I had been involved in an adversarial relationship with him. Most of the battle was carried out behind the scenes, involving some quite bizarre elements. What I have reported publicly is only a small fraction of the story, the whole of which might stretch credibility, especially for those who don't believe in the supernatural realm. But that is beyond the scope of this report.

The truth is, I loved Ted Gunderson as if he were my own father. For this reason, I don't believe I have ever been totally objective where he is concerned, nor that I can ever be. Which means, if anything, that I have been biased in his favor, rather than quick to believe the worst about him.

And I have forgiven Ted in my heart long ago. But how could I, once knowing the truth, not expose it? Lives were ruined by the FBI and CIA, good people were persecuted, tortured and killed. And still, it goes on today....

 

But, totally objective or not, my opinion of Ted Gunderson is based on direct knowledge and experience, both personally and professionally. I have a large file of documents (some written by Gunderson in his own handwriting) to support this considered professional opinion.

(One such document has become a bone of contention, including among several individuals quoted herein, that being a letter written to me by Ted Gunderson (1998), on FBI stationery, in connection with Ted's marriage to Diana Rively, the ex-wife of Anton LaVey, founder of the Church of Satan. This document was first made public in 2011, shortly before Ted Gunderson's death, when I gave it to my friend, journalist Sherri Kane.)

You will read additional statements from former FBI agent Geral Sosbee, who did not know Ted Gunderson personally, but whose life and career were severely damaged by Gunderson's actions and omissions.

(It should also be noted that Barbara Hartwell and Geral Sosbee both worked in counterintelligence operations, while serving in FBI and CIA, respectively, but that neither of us had anything to do with Hoover's official COINTELPRO.)

On the other hand, in this report you will read a number of statements published by those who did not know Ted Gunderson, including Gordon Duff and the (mostly anonymous) commentators on his website, Veterans Today. Then, there is man named Jim How, clearly a government stooge, who made a video on Ted Gunderson, published on Ken Adachi's website. (A hint: there will be no lack of entertainment in this report.)

But before I get into any of that material, here is a document from my files, written by Ted Gunderson. It is an excerpt from a letter to Larry Flynt, publisher of Hustler magazine. Following are my comments, taken from a previous report.

TED GUNDERSON SOLICITS PORN KING LARRY FLYNT FOR COINTELPRO

"Organize a select group of trusted, loyal Americans to operate an effective legal counter-intelligence operation. The goal of a counter-intelligence operation is to educate and, in some instances, to disrupt the enemy by mailing anonymous letters to selected individuals and groups in order to create distrust and paranoia. Another goal is to furnish disinformation and create confusion. I was a counter-intelligence expert in the FBI and I am aware of numerous techniques with which to work towards this goal. I wish to emphasize we will not conduct any criminal or illegal activity, nor violate any laws. All activities would be legal. There are other techniques than can be used, in addition to anonymous letters, i.e., telephone calls from public telephones. Disinformation can also be spread on radio and television talk shows."

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First, I would say that Gunderson's choice of an accomplice for his operation, the notorious pornographer, publisher of Hustler magazine, has got to be the lowest sleazoid on the planet. Ask yourself, who would want to do business with a low-life like Flynt?
 
Next, note that Ted Gunderson states that he was "a counter-intelligence expert in the FBI." Really? Then any reasonable person is left to draw the conclusion that Ted Gunderson was COINTELPRO, as that is the primary counter-intelligence operation in the FBI.
 
And now, he is looking to recruit more accomplices for his "legal" counter-intelligence operation.
 
"A select group of trusted, loyal Americans..."

Who could these "loyal Americans" be?

Let's start with some known associates of Ted L. Gunderson: Ken Adachi; Timothy Patrick White; Larry Lawson; Pamela Schuffert; John DeCamp. There are others, too numerous to mention, but these names will certainly be recognizable to anyone with an interest in the controversy this issue has generated over the past decade.
 
And for a damning statement, this one can't be beat: "Disinformation can also be spread on radio and television talk shows."
 
So, Ted Gunderson, in his own words, suggests spreading disinformation! And as many of us who have become his Targets know, he's done just that, in spades.

I can't count the times that Ted has gone on the airwaves slandering Barbara Hartwell, stating that I am a "government spook" or "CIA disinfo agent."

[For the primary example, at least in print, see the New Age/government disinformation website of Gunderson's PR shill, Ken Adachi.]
 
Fact is, this operation has been running for a long time. Ted Gunderson, joined by his cronies and amateur recruits (government stooges Tim White, Pam Schuffert, Ken Adachi, Todd Fahey, Larry Lawson et al) have wreaked havoc on the lives of many COINTELPRO Targets. And there is no end in sight.....
 
As far as I can see, this so-called "legal" counter-intelligence operation will continue until the lives of the Targets are so far destroyed that there is no hope to repair the damages.
 
And by the way, there is nothing "legal" about fraud, criminal stalking, identity theft, extortion, criminal harassment, death threats, murder-for hire schemes, inciting violence and terrorism.....this operation is a criminal conspiracy par excellence, rife with most every crime imaginable. Racketeering at its finest.

GORDON DUFF ENDORSES TED GUNDERSON

As regards Gordon Duff, it did not surprise me in the slightest that he would come out with an article in support of the credibility of Ted Gunderson.

But before I get to that, here is an excerpt from a previous report (2013):

Agenda Politics & Media Whores: Selling Out America

http://www.barbarahartwellvscia.blogspot.com/2013/08/agenda-politics-media-whores-selling.html

Al Gore. George Soros. George W. Bush. Barack Hussein Obama. The United Nations. The Federal Reserve. Neo-Nazis & White Supremacists.

Can any self-respecting defender of God-given unalienable rights and liberties, as protected under the Constitution, any true patriot, say they would support, promote or traffic with these godless individuals, groups or entities?

Not on your life.

And yet there are a number of individuals who have proved by their actions, by their words, by their ever-shifting and opportunistic personal and political alliances, that not only are their claims of being patriots false, but who have sold out the true patriots among us, those of us whose principles remain firm, unchanging, and uncompromising, year after year, decade after decade, no matter the consequences to ourselves, those of us who stand up for our country, who stand against tyranny in any form, against the criminals, liars, political hacks and traitors who are running this country into the ground.

In this statement [See quotes at top of page] Gordon Duff, editor of Veterans Today, openly admits to being a liar. And makes the pathetic excuse that the "false information" he promotes is necessary to keep him alive. Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know about Gordon Duff? Why then, would any intelligent person believe anything he has to say? Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus, in legal terms. And why would any honest person associate with him, or become a columnist on his website?

Answer: Nobody, except someone for whom agenda politics (of one kind or another) takes precedence over everything else, including the truth.

In corroboration and agreement re Gordon Duff, here is a statement from Geral Sosbee (2014):

DECORATED COMBAT VET (VIETNAM) GERAL SOSBEE COMMENTS ON 'VETERANS TODAY'

"I trust that 'Veterans Today' does not actually believe that Mr. Gordon Duff represents in his editorials the real veteran today, because he surely does not in my opinion. This veteran views Mr. Duff as a propagandist (however much misguided or unintended) for the corrupt and murderous intelligence agencies that have *overthrown the US government.

As I read his comments, I find nothing that seeks to edify the reader regarding the cowardly and out of control assassins of fbi, cia, dod, nsa, all of whom in large part run this country. Further, any agenda by any author that obscures the causes or genesis of the USA's macabre culture -as forged by military and intelligence agency fools- is of no tangible use to the people and is seen as such by informed people everywhere.

Also, as Mr. Duff is a former Marine, I find that even they are not forthcoming concerning their roles in the development and application of DEW technology that is used to torture me and others today. The same high tech weaponry invented and deployed by the US Marines is intended by its design to force suicide or to cause mental & physical breakdown and death of many Targets (foreign & domestic).

See:

http://www.governmentattic.org

(Add key words to search: neuronal entrainment, non lethal application.)

So, let the record show that when media, both mainstream and internet, are dominated by big mouths with big 'totalitarian' microphones, the people suffer and the nation falls deeper into the abyss of inhumane, fascist rule because truth is hidden under the veil of self serving and often irrelevant tripe. IMHO"

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Here's a question for the consideration of the reader: Why would Gorden Duff suddenly come out in support of Ted Gunderson, after years of promoting anti-Gunderson articles (by Stew Webb) on his website, 'Veterans Today'?

For a genuine intelligence analyst, the answer is simple. I would say that he hopes, by endorsing the credibility of Ted Gunderson, to discredit Stew Webb, formerly a columnist on Veterans Today (who left on bad terms with Duff), and more significantly, a longtime enemy of Ted Gunderson. 

(Otherwise known as “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”, a standard tactic of liars, opportunists and con men from time immemorial. They will team up with anyone, for a self- serving agenda, then drop their “friends” and “allies” when they are no longer useful to the agenda.)

I haven't paid much attention to the most recent brouhaha involving Stew Webb and Veterans Today. Stew Webb has a long and predictable history of moving from place to place, person to person, ally to ally, changing his position on any number of issues, and switching his loyalties, depending on what is expedient for his own ambitions. Wherever the wind listeth, there blows Stew Webb...

Stew Webb, after plastering quotes from Gordon Duff all over his website, and advertising 'Veterans Today' as if it were the be-all and end-all of websites for TRUTH on the face of God's green earth, even going so far as to make noises about “Gordon Duff for President!” (how utterly ridiculous) changed his tune once again and now promotes a tabloid-style banner with a very unflattering photo of Duff reading:

"Veterans Today Editor Gordon Duff aka Bob Foote Liar and Conman"

I mean, really... Stew Webb has just discovered that Duff is a liar and con man? Duh.

But that's the nature of Stew Webb. He and Duff are birds of a feather: scavengers, that is. They will promote (or denounce) anything and anyone, as long as their agenda du jour is served. As for the truth? Forget the truth, it doesn't enter into the equation. Didn't you know? The “truth” changes periodically to suit the convenience of its loudest and most aggressive advocates.

(Also see the testimony of former FBI agent Geral Sosbee on Stew Webb, in relation to his slander campaign against Barbara Hartwell, later in this report. Stew Webb concocted outrageous lies and even threatened to sue Barbara Hartwell, simply because I exposed the truth: that I refused to participate in his hoaxes, using forged documents and presenting false information to serve his agenda.)

THE STRANGE CASE OF TED GUNDERSON

Here, excerpts from Gordon Duff's article. My comments follow.

The Strange Case of Ted Gunderson

by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/23/the-strange-case-of-ted-gunderson/

"Fraud as claimed by some or the greatest whistleblower of our time?

Some people call themselves whistleblowers. When we look into them, who they are, where they were, what they really knew, some are total frauds, most are fabrications and the majority are “stooges” or “informants.”

Ted Gunderson was a senior FBI official who, during his career, investigated a number of famous cases. In the process, one of two things happened:

1. Gunderson stumbled on a secret satanic child murdering cult and included two American presidents, Reagan and Bush (41) or

2. No such things exist and he is utterly irrational." 

I have never met Ted Gunderson. I have been told repeatedly, Stew Webb in particular, that Gunderson, who died in 2011, was a total fraud, every word out of his mouth a lie. Then I began checking.

Gunderson checks out entirely. Others do not check out at all. Very real sources, close to the Reagan and Bush families, support Gunderson’s claims. The video above [See link to article] has been around for some time. I had been made aware of what was called the Franklin Scandal long ago when approached by a GOP state chairman on behalf of the president.

Considerable effort was made to “get to” Ted Gunderson, to discredit him and silence him. John DeCamp who was an aid to former CIA Director William Colby while in Vietnam, is similarly subjected to continual attack."

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"The greatest whistleblower of our time"? Lord have mercy! That is quite a claim, especially from the likes of Gordon Duff.

But how do you tell the difference between a great whistleblower and a mountebank?

If you are such a smooth operator (as Ted Gunderson surely was) that you can sell anything, to anyone, anywhere, using your abundant charm and charisma, brandishing your flawless credentials, you may appear as a knight in shining armor, riding up over the brow of the hill, a heroic figure, even a prophet, warning us all of the evil in our midst.

Has Gordon Duff, who by his own admission, lies to the public to “stay alive” (not to mention raking in the bucks, adding to the vast fortune of which he boasts) ever considered that Ted Gunderson might also be a liar?

If Mr. Duff has done the “checking” (with his fabulous and limitless access to intelligence sources worldwide) as he claims, did his research not reveal the fact that Ted Gunderson was COINTELPRO, in truth the second highest man in the operation, right under Hoover himself? Does he not know that one major purpose of COINTELPRO is (as admitted by Ted Gunderson) to “spread disinformation”?

Oh, but silly me, I forgot that Duff doesn't care about the truth. The truth be damned! Much more important is to deceive the large audience of his media empire, as his life is clearly more valuable than the millions of his fellow Americans, who are being harmed by the tyranny and massive deception perpetrated by his intelligence cronies worldwide.

Now, consider this statement from Mr. Duff:

"Ted Gunderson was a senior FBI official who, during his career, investigated a number of famous cases. In the process, one of two things happened:

1. Gunderson stumbled on a secret satanic child murdering cult and included two American presidents, Reagan and Bush (41) or

2. No such things exist and he is utterly irrational."

There is one factual statement here: “Ted Gunderson was a senior FBI official who, during his career, investigated a number of famous cases.”

But just because this statement is factual, does not mean that there are only two possible conclusions, as presented by Duff. He's trying to make this look as if it were a multiple choice quiz, with only one 'right' answer. In fact, it is an obvious logical fallacy.

I happen to know for a fact, due to my own investigations of many years (both inside government service and outside) that there are in fact satanic cults who murder children. And I didn't need Ted Gunderson's help to know that. I only met Ted in 1997, by which time I already had a large file on these operations.

And from my knowledge of Ted Gunderson, he was not irrational. Paranoid, yes. But not irrational.

But here's another theory: Gunderson knew about the satanic ritual abuse of children. He knew about the child sex slave trade. And he was instrumental not only in “exposing” it, but in covering for some of the perpetrators.

Next item: Duff presents his theory that Gunderson and DeCamp were Targets of a campaign for the purposes of “silencing” and “discrediting” them:

"Considerable effort was made to “get to” Ted Gunderson, to discredit him and silence him. John DeCamp who was an aid to former CIA Director William Colby while in Vietnam, is similarly subjected to continual attack."

Does Mr. Duff give any examples of such a campaign? No. Does he name even one person who might be engaged in these activities? No. In my opinion, Ted Gunderson and John Decamp need no help from anyone to be discredited. They've done a fine job of that all by themselves. 

Unfortunately, there are many credulous fools who believe the carefully crafted scenario presented by Gunderson and DeCamp.

The “Franklin Coverup” was in fact a double coverup, a coverup of a coverup, one that I exposed in my reports and on radio a decade ago. John DeCamp threatened to sue Barbara Hartwell, and began a slander/libel campaign against me in 2005.

In PART TWO I will address the comments made by readers of 'Veterans Today' in response to Gordon Duff's article on Ted Gunderson. I will also cover the video on Gunderson made by Jim How: “Was Ted Gunderson a Disinfo Agent?”, promoted on 'Educate Yourself' by Ken Adachi.

You'll hear more from former FBI agent Geral Sosbee, speaking out against Ted Gunderson and Stew Webb, and in defense of Barbara Hartwell.

Who is the "shadow government spook"? Barbara Hartwell, as accused by Ted Gunderson, or the COINTELPRO Kingpin (Ted -"the Gun" Gunderson) himself?

To be continued...

Barbara Hartwell Percival
June 6, 2015

 

 

 

 

 

Ted Gunderson's "warning" against Barbara Hartwell